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More than a million people sign a petition for a second Brexit referendum

As more than a million people sign a petition for a second Brexit , could it actually happen?

Nigel Farage reacts at the Leave.EU referendum party to UK voting for Brexit 

Telegraph - By Camilla Turner and Michael Wilkinson
25 JUNE 2016 • 2:09PM

A petition calling for a second EU referendum has reached over a million signatures, attracting the biggest surge of support Parliament’s website has ever seen.
The author of the petition, William Oliver Healey, says the Government should re-stage the referendum because the winning vote for Leave was less than 60 per cent and was
based on a turnout of less than 75 per cent. But could this actually happen?

Professor Vernon Bogdanor, one of Britain’s foremost constitutional experts said a second referendum is “highly unlikely”. 

He told The Telegraph: “I don’t think the EU will wish to bargain any further, they will take this vote as final.”

Prof Bogdanor, an expert in constitutional history at King’s College London who was David Cameron’s tutor at Oxford, warned that Governments will be “very careful” about
calling for referendums in the future.

Professor John Curtice, whose exit poll was the only one to predict the Conservatives would win last year's general election, said the subject was so divisive within mainstream
political parties and their supporters that it would be unlikely to form a campaigning issue for some time - let alone spark another public vote.

Thursday's referendum saw 17.4 million (51.9%) votes cast to leave the EU, compared with 16.1 million (48.1%) for remaining part of the bloc, with a turnout of 72.2%, according to
the Electoral Commission.

In response, more than a million people have signed an online petition calling for the Government to implement a rule that "if the Remain or Leave vote is less than 60% based on
a turnout less than 75%, there should be another referendum". The petition passed the seven-figure landmark just over 24 hours after the referendum result was confirmed.

Prof Curtice said: "How many people voted in favor of Leave? Seventeen million. One million is chicken feed by comparison."It's no good people signing the petition now, they should have done it before. Even then, these petitions don't always mean a great deal. "It has passed the 100,000 mark for it to be debated in Parliament. All that means is that some MPs will say, 'It's a terrible shame', others will say, 'Hallelujah'. Then that's the end of it.

EU Referendum: How events unfolded

"Mainstream political parties have been divided on Europe. The parties' supporters have been divided. Nobody is going to want to campaign prominently on this."
The professor of politics at the University of Strathclyde added: "If Boris Johnson is running the Government and if (disengagement from the EU) is taking a long time to be
implemented, two years down the line we could have another poll showing people actually want to reverse the decision and remain in.

"Then there could be a situation where the opposition party in a general election have a mandate to hold a new referendum on it."  Is the referendum legally binding? In theory, the Prime Minister could ignore the referendum result, put the question to a parliamentary debate and gamble on the majority of MPs voting to remain. This is because parliament is sovereign and referendums are generally not binding in the UK.

Had the 2011 referendum on changing the electoral system to alternative vote been successful, the Government would have been obliged to change the law. However, no such
provision was contained within the EU referendum legislation.

How the UK public really felt about Brexit

David Cameron addresses the nation after the British public voted by a slim majority to leave the European Union. What is Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty and why is it important?
Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty states: “Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements”.
Mr Cameron can decide when to invoke Article 50, which is the formal notification to the EU of Britain’s decision to leave. He could still decide to ignore the vote and refuse to invoke it. However, in practice, this is very unlikely. He has said in the past that he would have to trigger it immediately after a vote for Leave, although he could have been speaking figuratively to emphasize that the referendum was final.

On Saturday, the EU founding states called on Britain to "urgently" trigger Article 50 and begin the process of departure.

When will Britain actually leave the EU?

After invoking Article 50, Britain would have up to two years to negotiate their terms of exit. If they wanted any longer, all member states would need to unanimously agree to it.Prof Bogdanor said that Article 50 is “deliberately designed to make it difficult to leave. The balance of power is with the other 27 member states.” He went on: “There are up to two years to negotiate. Unless there is unanimity, they can say ‘these are our terms, take it or leave it’.”

Senior EU officials have already said they want Britain to leave as soon as possible.
Jean-Claude Juncker, the president of the European commission, said “it doesn’t make any sense to wait until October to try to negotiate the terms of their departure”.
In an interview with Germany’s ARD television station, he added: “I would like to get started immediately.”

Will Britain ever be able to re-join the EU?

Yes. The final clause of Article 50 states: “If a State which has withdrawn from the Union asks to rejoin, its request shall be subject to the procedure referred to in Article 49”.
Article 49 of the Lisbon Treaty deals with the procedure for any countries wanting to join the EU, whether they have previously been members or not.

It says that if a European state is committed to promoting the values of “human dignity, freedom, democracy, equality, the rule of law and respect for human rights” then it may
apply to become a member of the Union.

Following an application, the European Council would have to unanimously agree to Britain re-joining, after consulting with the Commission and receiving assent of the European Parliament. The decision would then need to be ratified by all member states. Treaty of Paris creates the European Coal and Steel Community. 




W-I-L-D! by Capitalist Exploits - Jun 25, 2016 9:53 AM

When financial markets go berserk (just in case you needed a proof that markets are NOT efficient)

Today is a day which will no doubt become legendary and enter folk memory in the UK and elsewhere.  A few thoughts on Gold, currency and “risk free savings” in the wake of Brexit
Today is one of those days that I almost wish I had taken the blue pill.  Bilderberg Chairman Warns Brexit Possibility "Extremely High"

by Tyler Durden Jun 14, 2016 3:01 PM

Just day after their mysterious annual meeting in Dresden, it appears The Bilderberg Group's gravest concern is Brexit. While everything from The Middle East to Donald Trump was on the agenda, the remarks this week from AXA CEO (and Chairman of The Bilderberg Group) Henri de Castries that there is an "extremely high" probability that the U.K. will vote to leave the European Union and investors will face “a true landscape of uncertainties," suggest the establishment is concerned.

As Bloomberg reports, neither the U.K. nor the EU region is prepared for negotiations that would follow a vote to leave on June 23, de Castries said at a conference in Paris...

“If they remain, the situation isn’t simple either, and this is underestimated by lots of people,” because the result will be interpreted differently by each side, he said.
De Castries, who is stepping down from France’s largest insurer at the start of September, became one of the few executives to speak out on the likelihood of a British vote to exit the EU. The Sun, Britain’s biggest-selling newspaper, backed a so-called Brexit on its front page on Tuesday. Several polls on Monday also put the “Leave” campaign ahead. The pound and European stocks plunged.
If the U.K. votes to leave the EU, any complacency in the subsequent negotiations could encourage some other countries to seek special treatment within the political bloc, threatening "to accelerate the unraveling of Europe," de Castries said.

Think that this is a "tempest in a teapot"? Think again. If the chairman of The Bilderberg Group is worried, then that means all of these entities are 'worried' and ´preparing´...



Absolutely ridiculous demand from the looser YES to EU side,asking the government for a second Brexit referendum based on a suggested law alteration of a min. 60% out of a min. voting population of 75%.  Too late to close the gate after the horse has run.

During the voting evening and night when the YES side seemed to be getting the majority votes,no one mentioned a second referendum at new rules,BUT, the tune changed drastically the next morning when it became clear Brexit had won.

They claim that 70% of the voters are academics and from the UK elite,the rest are children under 16 and old people. What utter nonsense.  A large proportion of the conservative ministers also voted for Brexit.

As the global elite (Bilderberg) considering themselves all-powerful,and do not accept defeat,you can be sure they are now activating Plan ´B´ in an effort to have the present result overturned.  As usual,they are using their old weapon of thesis+antithesis=synthesis



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